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TGB Scooters

Postby mountainmoped » Tue Feb 15, 2011 6:07 pm

I called Peirspeed/Cobra Powersports today to place an order for a 151cc TGB R9 Laser scooter. I had noticed that the TGB Key West 50cc and 50cc Laser pricing had been removed from the dealer order forms and I asked Mason Orr (sales manager) about it. Peirspeed is out of all 50cc 2 cycle scooters except for a few R50X models and doesn't have any plans to sell them in the future. They also don't have any plans to bring in the 151cc TGBs once the current inventory is sold out. They are selling a lot of 125cc Sachs Madass motorcycles and plan to concentrate on Sachs products.

Sachs has developed a 50cc 4 cycle water-cooled scooter engine with 3 valves that develops over 6.5 horsepower. Most 150cc GY6 engines only develop 7.8 horsepower. I hope the new scooter will be available by the middle of the summer.

I hope somebody picks up the TGB line as they are great scoots. I have 4 new Key Wests in stock--I think I will keep to of them for Jeanie and myself.
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Postby Ralph C Barger » Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:06 am

OK, Bryan,, that is the unit that you are ordering for me. TGBs 151cc GY6
is oil cooled and produces 10.1 hp. I think that Peirspeed is making a big
mistake in dropping the line and I dont doubt that someone who has a more aggeressive marketing approach will pick up the entire line and
bring in the TGB 250 unit as well.
In essence Peirspeed is going to soon be out of the scooter business
if they base their line on the MadAss only. It is a German concept made
in China and is based on two engines, 50 and 125 cc, in the same frame.
It does not have wide appeal and is centered on a small buying market.
TGB is made in Taiwan, backed by Piaggio as I understand it, and is a
far better machine, in my opinion, than most of the Chinese products.
How will this move affect the parts situation if no one takes up the TGB
line?
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Postby mountainmoped » Wed Feb 16, 2011 10:40 pm

Parts should be no problem.
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Postby Ralph C Barger » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:38 am

That is good to know. I am sorry that Peirspeed has made this decision
and I wish them well with teh MadAss. That said, i sincerely hope that
some one else will pick up the TGB line.
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Postby JD » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:36 pm

TGB has never been marketed properly in the U.S. The Kymco and even the Sym websites put the Cobrasports and Peirspeed sites to shame. If their dealer organizational support is anything like the websites, TGB has never taken things very seriously in the U.S.

Both of the local TGB dealers dropped the line. One focused on mainland Chinese scoots because they were a lot cheaper, and the other got an opportunity to grab a Kymco franchise and couldn't drop the TGB franchise fast enough.

I agree that the MadAss line, while they are great little bikes, are a niche product. When you take what is already a niche market for scooters and mopeds in this country, and then try to slice out an even smaller piece, you're definitely limiting your sales potential. The 50cc MadAss is illegal in most states, and the 125cc unit has a lot of competition with more features. But maybe Peirspeed figures they'd rather be a very low volume distributor and make steady money (although modest) on that. Can't say I blame 'em. No one has ever gotten rich selling small bikes in the U.S., and no one ever will, IMHO.

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Postby oilyhans » Thu Feb 17, 2011 6:30 pm

mountainmoped wrote:Parts should be no problem.

what mountianmoped said , confirmed today.
for how long and the "in stock in the US supply" availability
was not divulged.

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Postby Ralph C Barger » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:15 pm

If someone picks up TGB and markets it correctly it can compete with
the others quite sucessfully. It is a quality product and if more people
can see that quality then it will suceed here in the states as it has in
Australia and other countries.
However, at this point only time will tell. I am glad I ordered my R9i
before Peirspeed closed out the line. As of next Monday I will have 3 TGBs in my stable. That should last me a while.
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Postby mountainmoped » Thu Feb 17, 2011 7:27 pm

Peirspeed/Cobra still stocks parts ffor some ATVs that they haven't sold in years. I HAVE BEEN IN THIER WAREHOUSE AND HAVE SEEN THEIR LARGE PARTS INVENTORY WITH MY OWN FOUR EYES! It is nice to be within a 30 minute drive of their parts warehouse.

Peirspeed/Cobrapowersports dealer support has always been excellent and I'm sure it will continue to be excellent in the future.
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Postby JD » Thu Feb 17, 2011 8:12 pm

Both our Laser R5s have over 6,000 miles and are still running strong. They were worth every penny, but if I were to buy another scoot I'd look for a manufacturer that takes the U.S. market more seriously. I need to know that the dealers will stick around. Sooner or later these puppies are going to need more serious parts and service, and I'm going to have a problem then.
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