Hello from a new member

[207blue]

Hey guys.. I am Bruce Allen from South Carolina, USA.

I have been working on two Honda's for a friend. They were both literally a barn find and were sitting there for well over 15 years.
One is a 1970 ST70 and it has been finished and is in wonderful condition with less than 250 kilometers mileage showing.

The other is a 1979 PA50I - which is the slow version. It has 52 miles showing. It, too, is in excellent condition.
The only real problem was gasoline had been left in the tank and it was a pain to clean out and the petcock was ruined with the dried gas and had to be replaced along with the carburetor.

It starts with one "kick" and runs fine with only one small nick in the paint showing on the frame.

I have a question about replacing the gear oil in the rear wheel. I see where the drain bolt is located but do not see any place obviously to fill it back up.
Will I have to take the wheel off and use the drain bold hole to refill the oil?

Any help would be appreciated..

[207blue]

A follow up question.

We will be selling this moped.

Considering it's excellent condition what should a good asking price be?

[207blue]

I see over 30 people have viewed my posts and no one has replied.

What's up with that?

[RebelRider.Mike]

Hey Bruce,
Welcome to the forum.
I'm one of the viewers of your previous posts, but I have no answers to you mechanical questions. My experience is with Puch mopeds, rather than Honda.
I was hopping someone with Honda experience would post first.

As for value, I'm no expert, but it seems to me that a running moped of any make or age in good condition would be worth around $1,000. Whether it would sell for that much or not probably depends on the demand in your area.

Good luck with your projects! I'd love to see pictures if you're willing to share.

[207blue]

Thank you for the reply.

I will post some pics. The condition of it is simply wonderful. It has an original equipment rear basket and the tool kit looks like it has never been taken out.

I was thinking $1000.00 also.

On the gear oil, I went to a local Honda dealer and spoke to their lead mechanic, which was the only one old enough to remember ever working on the old mopeds, and we kind of agreed since there was only one hole it had to be where you put the oil in also.. just fill it up until it seeps out and put the bolt back in place.

[207blue]

I have not had time to take pics of the moped yet but the owner came by and took several to list it on Ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1979-Vintage-Ho ... 1866407178

There are 6 pics on the Ebay page.. not great quality but the beauty of the unit is clear.

I am busy painting my house right now and still intend to take and post my own pics, hopefully by the end of the week.

[mountainmoped]

Nicest one I have seen in years.

[207blue]

As can be seen the moped is nearly in showroom condition and is really clean. The only non-original part is the carburetor, fuel hose and fuel petcock.
It is the PA50I - the governored model that will only go 20mph. Right now it is 54 miles on it.





And sitting right next to the PA50 was this - a 1970 Honda ST 70 with less than 500 miles on it;

[pedman]

Two very nice bikes! The only difference between the 20 mph and 30 mph model is the crankshaft and variator. Most people just replace the engine rather than swap the parts. I'll be surprised if you get more than $650 for it because the 20 mph version isn't that desirable. Performance enhancements are a waste of money since the front variator controls top speed. I have a PA50 that can pull a wheelie and hit 45 mph. Good luck! I would love it if you could get $1,000! Very nice restoration.

[207blue]

The info I have states the PA50I has a governor that regulates the top speed, also this is not a restoration but is the original condition.
I was thinking if one wanted to get more speed would be to simply disable the governor - or remove it completely.

However a moot point now as we did sell it on Ebay and got close to $1000.

Had another first as had to figure out how to ship the thing out of state on a pallet... but with a little trial and error got that done also and the moped is already in the hands of it's new owner..

[RidingRick]

Hello! Thank you for sharing photos of the bikes. They look almost showroom new. It's nice to see pictures and be transported back in time. Thanks for the memories!